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I've been in the webcam industry for over 15 years. If she says that she a webcam model it is a small risk. You need to stick a lot of stuff in yourself, hammering, I do not know, up your holes. Self-torture, self-suffocation can there may also be fatal outcomes. Some people ask me to take a dildo and just something like this to show. Ugh, man, I don't like it, I don't want to do that. And then: no, I'll put up with it. Webcam, it is not separated from the porn industry. Here I will definitely earn money. Sex was always on sale and it will be sold. Hello everyone With you Petya Ploskov, and today we are talking about webcam. We shot this episode for a very long time. and so far this is the most difficult one, but also our most interesting work. Adult industry theme and separate webcams causes the maximum number of disputes, and most often, the first association in our conservative society "that it's some kind of dirt." Some say it's a shame, others shy away, others fanatically watch broadcasts, and the fourth dream to get there, because it seems that there is easy to earn. We talked to webcam models, experts, and studio owners, psychologist, sexologist, lawyer and even went to the webcam studio to watch, how it works from the inside out. And yes, I registered and I tried logging in to the chat myself. These aren't fucking easy money, I'll tell you. This is Petya about webcam. Let's go. The thing is, I'm becoming now webcam model, and Emil, he's the superior admin here in this studio at Kazan, will tell me the rules and Then he'll put me in front of the camera, and I'll go out like webcam model, we have already registered, therefore, it will be for sure interesting to watch, but maybe not. Basically, you can take food with you, cook here, we have a special kitchen specialized for models. That you definitely won't stay hungry. Next, let's go for a quick look over small details. Here we have a refrigerator, you can throw anything here, basically, how our models eat. Show this beautiful scene. This is the board where models usually arrive before shift, write down their initials, time, from how long to how long to work, and accordingly, no one get confused about who's sitting where. So, for the purity of the experiment we'll write down your initials now. Awesome I'm in room five, right? Yes, you'll be in room five. How interesting. We start today at 16:40. I mean, I kicked out some girl now, it turns out? Yes, yes, yes. All right, great, let's move on. Beauty table where we have models initially preening, there, I don't know, dried, straightened, curls there, like that. You can do all this, too, basically, it's all in free use. Super, cool I've already been brought in order, like fine. You look gorgeous. Thanks! That's it. 58 I belong here. I feel like I belong. We can keep going. How did you get into webcam? How did it all start? Will you start?" I'll get started. It all started with me on a quiet evening After classes at the university, I flipped through the feed VKontakte and came across an ad, something like a modeling agency. I thought: well, I've always wanted to be a model, I think, well, I'll like it now. Then they wrote to me, then they called me and I ended up at an interview, and somehow that then it spun. So you didn't know what it was webcam modeling and what it is and for what, where are you going anyway? No, I was just curious to know what it is. How long have you been doing this? Almost two years. Almost two years. And you like it, you don't want to change anything yet? I don't want to change anything, I like everything. Got it, okay, what about you? I knew what I was doing, my friend was working In this studio, she told me how great it is, what a cool team here, So I just decided to give it a try. In general, I already wanted to do webcam, but I didn't want to go to a studio where I don't know anyone. And I, it turns out, came, then it turned out that there were three more girls here, I knew, well, acquaintances. And that's all, I really liked it very much and stayed. I mean, I just knew, that this is a webcam, that's all. And then, in short, I get a notification about that you're being invited to a headhunter, like, about the fact that here is a modeling agency, there is no name, in short, there is nothing. And I'm like, " well Okay, I'll come." I'm going, in short, here, it turns out, to this office, the office. And the director is sitting, and they say it's a webcam. I'm like, man, this is awesome. Like I wanted to to go to webcam for a long time. You were invited exactly as a model? I was invited as a manager in general, I was told: if you want, let's try it as a manager. Well I just stayed about six months as a manager. Then I switched to the model, worked for a month, but everything is very bad and deplorable there. Tell me why." Well, like there you need to know English, but I don't have it, and I need to work just with men, adult men, and I'm very afraid of adult men. And they offered all sorts of things. bad stuff out there, shove your dick in and all that stuff, like jumping on it. And I like it better such cuddling. And then, boys earn very little. There is no development. Here we have a locker, where in principle there are studio attributes specifically for models that originally come, roughly speaking, with nothing. That is, accordingly, everything is naturally, also, is cleared, as if the models after themselves washes everything and irons. So, hair dryer, there, paraphernalia, you can even watch it. This is what I can I work today with? Sure. We'll take it with us now. Why, oh, it's right here. These are handcuffs. Oh, no. Not enough for the neck. Further. Look. So, I'll take the whip, today I will. You will be obstinate, Petya. Yes, yes. This is our branded dressing gown, all our models wear them. Do models sit in them? No-no, this is to walk around the studio. Understood. Throw yourself in. Models smaller than me, of course. Oh, come on. I already told you: you look gorgeous. Further. Here we basically have everything stacked up sheets and towels that models use, and so on, heels. But I think we won't need them today. Yes, today without that, thank you. At the very least, you can ask me or the administrator - they will be brought in at any time. But as it turns out, you can see girls are also sometimes naked and... I'll tell you sincerely, Honestly, I probably myself about two weeks later. I'm used to the fact that I don't accept it like something out of the ordinary. This is how I see a person, he's wearing clothes. I can also see that the girl is naked here. We still work on such a site, which is more for foreign users, that is called, LiveJasmin. There are sites like Chaturbate, BongaCams, these are more free sites, there more Russians, there are a lot of people there. And LiveJasmin is still there more foreign audience. Ah, so you're both targeted at a foreign audience. Yes. This is a private site. Okay, we'll check it out today. I will also be on it today, I will be trained, so interesting and exciting. Good luck. The most important thing is just a smile, a good mood good mood, lots of energy, that's all. That is, if you sit like a stone, if you lie as a log – you won't get anything at all. The main thing is to smile and carry positive emotions to these people, and everything will be cool. The first time passed any barriers? Maybe you were nervous, did you break yourself or not? Of course, there were some fears, and in general webcam is such a platform for personal growth, that is, and directly in the work. Oh, by the way, that's very true. But I also came from the first day: it turns out, made my photos, I was put on stream, and my administrator left for some reason. So, he said: Well, just wait for me. And I was curious, and I just – well, I should not have actually started broadcasting – But I started it with my phone, and in two hours, when he wasn't there, I just earned Money, and I'm like, geez, wow. Give us your first feelings. I see this delight, I see a frightened face, it's okay, don't worry. Yes, to be honest, I have a slight fear right now. Don't be afraid, don't be afraid, everything will be fine. Basically, everyone is afraid of the first shift, this is normal. Yes, it's psychologically difficult, And it looks as if I still need to now make love here. Yes, I'll tell you now everything-I'll show you. Please tell us, about this camera. This is some kind of prof-super-cool-expensive? Yes, it's pro-super-cool The Optics PTZ camera. It is, in principle, so chic that, I don't think it's in any of the studios, we took it purely for the sake of experiment, We were surprised by the quality. And how much does it cost? I can say with ease, that it costs about a hundred approximately. Awesome, This is the first time I've ever seen one. Keyboard, mouse, the mat is your friends. Accordingly, the monitor, the camera is your auxiliary friends. Opening your page for the first time in my life. There is a website model center LiveJasmin, where you will enter your username accordingly and the password, I'll give it to you now. Or maybe, for example, how to be drunk in the frame? No, actually, we don't allow this, right away we release he model and send her home. I'm not ready to work in such conditions. And by country - this is mostly Russia, America? No, no, no, we don't touch Russia in any way, our studio is protected from Russia, and we hide it, since in any case it is privacy, plus In Russia, this is, I would not say, which is forbidden, but we're being careful. We are on the verge of it. We mostly have Europe and the United States. You're coming here first to earn money. Look, and if, for example, I was bought out on private and I will be asked to do what I don't want, am I just jumping out of private? No, you can't jump out of private. The bottom line is that they took you to private, you first discuss it with a member. So the member will tell you in advance: do you do such and such things? There, I don't know,let's say do you wax yourself in private? If you do, you say yes, and accordingly, this should be done. What if you don't? Well, just write to him, or answer, well, preferably, by the way, on the site speak it out and register it. The only thing we ask models every time is please note that while the promo period is running, you need to anchor members, that is, you need to start communicating with them correctly. Because if you once spent private and think you're on it – no, this is bad. If you had a private chat with a member and after that, you anchored with him That I'll be welcome you with a heart, for example. And naturally, it becomes pleasant to him. That is when he enters the general chat and you just show it, and he understands that you show it to him, and accordingly, psychologically... You have your signal with him. Yes. Yes, yes. How many signals do you have professional girls? A lot? Oh, yes, a lot. There is, of course, special notes. When a member comes in, you spend private chatwith him, you can leave a note about it, for example, in the chat you find out what his name is Joshua, he lives in the States. Oh, it's right there in this program, and you all-all the information about him... awesome. You just write it all down and... Wow, this is so hard. I just posted a photo, which I have on Instagram here. If I enter a photo in Yandex I wonder if this site will give me one of its own? I'm going to scold you for what you posted a photo here of the one you have on Instagram. Since we are, our conversation is already coming up in addition, there is a possibility of drains, it is equal to 2-3%. But I'll tell you boldly, that this 2-3% is a model error. That is, it can either post photos from your instagram profile. The second point is that she can tell her friends, tell her family that she's on webcam. If she says that she is a webcam model, this is already a small risk. But if she also shares it with them directly by the nickname, which should be incognito for her, accordingly, they will know everything. And whether you want to or not, in any case everyone will tell each other. You're both working solo, right? Yes. Do you have any young people or someone, partners? I don't have. Not yet. If they do, you're going to say, what do you do and so on? How do you feel about this? in general, how easy is it? Freely, yes. In general, in principle, if I start To communicate closely with people, I immediately say: I am webcam model, that's it. My entire entourage knows about that I'm a model. No one has ever said something negative about it. That is, you, it turns out, you too tell all your friends and acquaintances? Yes. This is very good indeed, because that's how it should be. People should either take, or don't accept it. Yes, yes, either accept, or well you're not my man. Let's break in. Does it say I'm 36? Well yes. Damn. It says your age. Sorry. Am I going too far old for webcam? Is there any ageism involved in webcam? In Jasmin, I maximized saw it, it's a 52-year-old lady. A lady? Yes. Oh, wow, I'm so tanned. Hi guys. I selected it, and it works automatically translated it using the keyboard. All, and sent, and accordingly, see how many people are watching you. It's okay, guys. You're popular everywhere. Is that a good thing? I am currently watched by 15-16 people standard, is it super for Jasmin? It's not super, but for starters, for the first few minutes, this is very good. They'll start right here a members with a mask will appear. If anything, please review it, Go to the guys, maybe I'll be with you first guy on... In fact, we'll be happy to pick you up. So I found myself a second job. To what audience do boys have to work? This is some kind of... Gay audience, fetishists, grandfathers and all sorts of adults. Here, more of this type... So they're not rich women? Not yet. Well, I have, by the way, I was sitting on Chatura at first, women came in there, but they, in short, they didn't write anything, didn't do anything, they didn't offer anything, they just like there were watchers, that's all. And on Jas there was an activity, well, this type of average. And all other sites are free, so you need to poke a lot of stuff in myself, fuck around, I don't know, in all the holes just, to earn something. They're not writing anything right now, they're watching, but there's no chat, right? Yes. They just sit in silence. Yes, you're here now, you have to do something about yourself I mean, let's say I don't know, lower your T-shirt or lift it up like, I don't know, dancing in front of mirrors, that is, somehow anchor. That is, some masked member will enter, and he'll start asking you any questions, write in chats, you can start communicating with them. And he'll have stay go with you anyway if he's interested in you. The main thing is not to sit just keep moving. So, if I smile, look, right there immediately go viewers. The main thing is to smile. You need to smile and also move. Hey guys, how are you? So make some show. Everything is perfect, goahead. How are you, guys? Just write me down something. So hot here. First, I realized that this is very, very difficult, this is not a live broadcast in YouTube or instagram, you need so that they still remain. And, of course, everything is very, very difficult, and I couldn't handle it, so I definitely wouldn't be a webcam model. Webcam is not about easy money. I have information that you have also worked in studios, with studios, and now you're working on yourself. Yes, there was even an interim period, when I was working at home, but for the studio. That is, I had studio accounts and I gave a certain percentage for the fact that I withdraw money, actually, from the sites. I went to work for the studio, of course, there is very little information available on the Internet, indeed, there is, but it is not enough, what is it in general, what is it eaten with, what are they like there are pitfalls. And I was going there, completely unaware. understanding what awaits me, to the studio. That's all, I was registered on the site Fast enough, dropped off, and I need to still to deal with the technical issues it was all happening in the process. As soon as I plus or minus understood how it works, what kind of sites there are in general, I went to work at home. Well, at home I was, of course, it is more comfortable to work, but for this requires equipment. How much is it in terms of money? Well, about a hundred. A hundred thousand? Yes. Please tell me, are you at the same time you make broadcasts to several sites. In other words, you watch the chats and for people who are on all of these sites, right? Yes, what they write is private messages, or this is a shared chat where people write to you, and you monitor what they write everywhere. But, as a rule, if you have on one if there are a lot of people, then you don't have no need to go to other sites. That is, when I conduct consultations, And when I had another consultation for a girl, she went to one site, I say: try a week on one site, just adapt, understand, yours or not, and then you can go on other ad platforms. She came out here on this platform, and she had there, she was watched by how many, thousands, in my opinion, ten people, and ... yes, yes. You're just superstars. Well, actually, yes, there are some of their own popular girls, their own popular models that work there for years and quite calmly they just sit and chat. What are the main problems that people come up with to you in the crisis center webcam models? Basically, this is, of course, harassment, blackmail with the distribution of content from parties, mainly, of course, studio owners, studio administrators, i.e. the main beneficiaries. And, of course, third-party people also, the so-called members. And if we are talking about cases of threats, already it is threats of some kind of physical violence or threats to the distribution of this content, then also it can come from absolutely strangers or even associations of people. What kind of lawsuit do you have? What's going on with you now, and with whom? At the end of the summer of that year, they tried to blackmail me. So I was working under the nickname. Revealed my nickname, revealed my name, they gave me links to the VKontakte page and mine personal photos and videos my sister and some friends. That is, there is a website, which specifically does deanonymization? Yes, they expose webcam models and merge their accounts. I was very scared. Not directly there, but they asked for money. You can pay the money by contacting telegram channel, and it seems to be worth 500 dollars-remove information about yourself. But there are no guarantees, and it is not clear, it may appear on another site. I went to the crisis center, they offered psychological help and suggested contacting the police, write a statement. We wrote, it turns out, in September a statement to the police and that's all from that year this is taking a very long time, and we can't somehow get the police to do something. They don't do anything. Why do you think this is happening, why don't the police help in such cases? Because it is a webcam story? Well, including, I also heard this from the police, that "you understand that you are an adult girl, well, why did you go there?" I've heard that before, but on the other hand, it seems to me that they simply do not have instructions, how to deal with such crimes. That is, they don't know where to request information, they don't know with whom talk, they don't understand how to assess damage. What's the toughest part what happens to the girls? If we take the most severe cases, this is those cases when either data threatens already distribute, or when they have already been hit to the network, and these are very tough attacks. Specifically, direct users on the network with threats of murder, with threats of disclosure of this data. This is very strong, yes, it affects. And also, of course, we are dealing with requests about threats in the case of attempts to exit the industry, these threats received from the owners, administrators and others beneficiaries, let's just say this industry. And how do studios not give girls Get out, I mean, how do they threaten them? If a girl is involved in this area and she generates revenue for the studio, and for some reason she decided to leave, the most frequent case appeals to us are just blackmail the distribution of these photos is also important here to follow the chain further, it's not just blackmail when these photos are released in the future get into the network, we've all heard about many cases where this was extended, when it was widely spread and recognized not only by relatives or the closest circle, which threatens to leak this information, but a huge number of publics, that are very aggressive, and then we will already deal with finding the address for example, of the model, and threats of even physical violence. Have you ever been in a crisis center with someone who had a threat offline or already some kind of violence, not only online bullying, shaming, but offline? Yes, we can talk about cases, and this is more than one case where was found out the victim's adress, and to this address they threatened to come or even came. Your parents know, what are you doing on webcam? They know everything. Both parents and friends? I have absolutely, I have instagram absolutely open, my mother is the first who found out, quite calmly. For me, this is generally a kind of Well, I tell right away. I immediately say what kind of activity I do. In general, for the most part, to webcams go like as a backup option, they say, " well, if anything, there is always a webcam, I'll earn money there." No, this is generally a big mistake. A lot of people are coming, but I don't even know judging by categories of people is strange. That is, of course, I have friends who work in the webcam. Often these are people who, yes, they don't really want to work there for hire. Those who want to increase their income, yes, for the most part, but many generally resort to There: "Ah, I need money, I need Money, I wish I had something right now to earn, Well, here I will definitely earn money." No, well, with your sixth iPhone, if you go live, you'll earn money something, but it will be, well, that won't be enough. I, you might say, came by accident, out of stupidity. I liked the boy, he had some kind of such an interest in the trashlike experience, and I thought, That I can impress him so much. And I've heard a lot of good reviews about webcams, and I thought, that there's nothing wrong with that. I found a studio, made an agreement with them, and started to try, and then, when called there The boy, he said, that he wouldn't be involved in all of this. I believe that he did the right thing, but I was left alone there, so I worked solo in the studio, well, I somehow stayed there, Because I thought, well, since I'm already doing this I study and sort of like the idea is if they pay money, I can stay. And I had two jobs at the time, I worked as a barista in the morning, and in the evening I worked on a webcam. And I got tired very quickly, about a month and a half later, I left. From webcam? Yes. And I didn't see a lot of money there. they paid like in a coffee shop, like in a studio-well, approximately the same. And you can tell the numbers, here in the coffee shop how much did you earn or how much money did you earn in the studio? Well, somewhere 30-35 thousand here and there. Well, accordingly, due to the fact that the studio took 50 or more there percentages, right? Yes, yes, well, I counted later, what are the people actually watching streams and pay, they give away a lot of money, half of this amount or even more the site takes, and another half of the amount picked up by the studio, depending on where you're working. You can work from home, but the model gets a very small percentage. We received data from models, who collaborate with studios, yes. Streaming services, based on their responses, they take about 50-70%, I now look at the numbers, from the amount earned. The studio takes about 40-60% commission, and this is usually the amount with a fixed minimum. That is, some fixed minimum. regularly must give to the studio, and under the threat of certain sanctions. And on average, the respondents have no more than 20% of the total the amount initially earned remains. From a psychological point of view, how can webcam models get hurt? This may also be PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder, and depressive disorders states that either appear or get worse, and the feeling of anxiety is constant, here, and the difficulties of building relationships with the opposite sex, and with your own, they often feel after this as a sexually used object. It's like any sexual trauma in general, sexuality and the sexual sphere of a man, she's like that, it's very like that, sensitive area that is inseparable from a person's personality. That is, it is impossible to rent out, yes, without consequences somehow use, invade. Do I understand correctly that when people go out in front of the camera, they either do not feel any personal boundaries and do not understand what this can lead to, yes, in the end, what he will do some kind of order for tokens? Or someone goes asking themselves and, actually, he thinks: Well, I've got some money here I will earn and, accordingly, It's okay, I'll put up with it? And it all accumulates and leads to some processes, or what? Well, look, most often those who are in webcam they fall in, these people at some point are often in a difficult life situation. For example, they are very much in need of money, they feel vulnerable, which is often, those who contacted us, some very young girls, 18, don't know, 17, 19 years old, for which this is generally one of, I don't know, maybe the first sexual expieriences. That is, they are not fully understand what they are facing at all. How would a webcam position itself, that it is something safe, from the point of view of physical violence, but in reality there are cases when, as a result of such actions, self-tortures, self-suffocations there may also be fatal outcomes. Yes, I know this story about how a girl for the tokens, she was asked to strangle herself. She was choking, choking and yes, been watched her dieing. Sexualized practices also have a certain opposite direction, if we perceive the purchase of the body, and the body – it is something inalienable, like an object. 39% of our respondents who have encountered with the attraction to webcam, in the first year we don't have any, there are few terms to call it that's right – they received an offer for engaging directly in prostitution, in offline services, escorts and so on. 40% of respondents. And 7% were forced to accept these offers. What does forced mean? It was important for us to explore, how free is this choice, right? She made this decision because was it interesting, or did she make that decision because of some other reason? And 100% of these reasons were given financial, these were the reasons given blackmail and pressure from the studio administration. Do I understand correctly that the model, when it does denonymization, she may not face these problems, because that everything is mostly based on blackmail spinning? That is, if it she says she's a webcam model, and, accordingly, we must somehow get out of gray area, then they will have more rights and fewer such problems, they encounter? To begin with, commit this coming-out conditional. This will also, in fact, not exactly a free choice. Because how would it be accomplished by The reason that I'd rather do it myself before I'm de-signed. That is, this is the first one. The second is that when it will be committed, it will be committed not only in the direction of your loved ones, but this data they are put into wider use. Here's another very important point, that this is a decision that cannot be revoked. Actually, in general, webcams as a phenomenon have become probably relatively recently, with the development of technologies. Absolutely it is safer than standing on the streets, standing on the streets, is the most dangerous place. But what happens next after working in the webcam? What are the long-term consequences? We can't tell yet, because the phenomenon exists not very long ago. Still, the fact that you can don't get enough money, well, it will decrease the number of people who give you money, your grade will somehow decrease and so on, this is all some such runs a line in your head. And because our sexuality is built, roughly speaking, we work in such a way that we have there a sexual gas and a sexual brake. And all these groups of factors that we have initially called, can as on gas click when all is well, so press the brake when everything is bad. Here is this alarm, what if I'll stop now, or if I don't take now One more client, I'll stop earn money, they will stop contacting me and so on, or if I say no, maybe never get back or some kind of a bad review will be delivered, and I'll lose money again. Anyway, it's still somewhere in the subcortex it exists, it works, and it affects. So this results, can lead to the fact that a woman, well, more often it is a woman, but often, of course, and a man, but a woman starts getting involved into sexual activity where it is not wanted to, or she doesn't want to anymore, or she's tired, she'd rather sleep. Did it affect you in any way psychologically, do you see something, any changes in yourself? Well, I think so. In the majority I can't stand sex. That is, if I have something going on nice to a person I like, At some point, for example, I may not want sex or not to want intimacy, or don't want to do it that way. I might think, oh, man, I don't Like it, I don't want to do it, and then "No, I'll put up with it, Don't worry, I won't break down." Our sexual attraction, the fact that it is called libido, depending on what type of previous sexual experience we had. That's if it was cool, if it was good and healthy, then it's like an appetite. If we went to a certain restaurant and we well fed, we want to go back there. Now if we got poisoned there and then We were in intensive care for two days, I don't know. we'll never go there again. When sex is good, you don't really like it and your attraction begins to fall slowly. Many,many times it should be not very tasty, so that gradually your attraction has fallen, and therefore even women with high libido initially, and there are many of them involved in the field that loves sex, they like a lot of sex, after a while after a certain amount of reps if they have sex with some other motivation than that they want to have direct sex with that specific partner that attractive, ultimately they run the risk of being at a point where when they don't feel anything. This is what I came across. Can you tell me, please? about the psychological aspect? Because you said you were tired, what was hard for you, and what exactly? I would describe it as very exhausting work, because you need to constantly maintain a good mood, constantly smiling, constantly being nice. It's just a product, That I am my emotionality, I sell sensitivity as a commodity. What are the pros and cons any disadvantages to this job? One of the disadvantages, I believe, is that you need constantly smiling at the camera, constantly play in a good mood, even if you have bad one, if you want some money to earn. Well, there's no other way. Because people come there for good emotions. They don't need you sad. Well, maybe only in some way to regular users who are ready to see you any, but mostly still not needed you being sad because that's not what they come for, that's not what money pays for. And how many days a week are you in online, on a stream? We work all according to five days a week. A, that is, a straight working week. Yes. You can have two days off choose any of them. And how many hours? You need to do 45 hours a day a week, that's 9 hours a day. Well, that is a 10-hour shift, from 9 am to 7 in the evening, but an hour break turns out, there on just a little, and 9 hours to work. That is, for you, a minus is an emotional one. burnout and just being forced to always smile. I wouldn't say it's a minus, I just by myself a positive person, I rarely have a really bad mood, just sometimes you need to put on a smile in some moments, such a small minus, but I didn't say outright that I didn't like it. And a plus? One of the big advantages is that I've improved my English over the past six months. So I came with a bad English, now I can talk more or less. I started taking care of myself more, I mean some out there: here I've grown my hair, I've made my lips myself, cilia are constantly growing, nails I'm building it up. Well, I just want to Look beautiful in the frame, and so I pay more attention to this somehow, this is cool, because I really like it. I used to be able to ignore it somehow - well, no nails and no nails. I did a regular manicure and that's it. And here I want something like this, because that there are even fetishists on nails, that is, they have such a fetish, some of them ask me to take a dildo and just do something like this show. A la ASMR of some sort? No, not ASMR, they masturbate to fingernails, long nails, such as these. Wow. This is the first time I've heard about such a fetish. Seriously, yes. Please tell me about the pros and cons. So while I was listening to Katya, I didn't find minuses, what might be the minuses here? Well, really. I don't see any disadvantages in this work. Because we only do what we want to do. what we like, that's all. If, probably, they worked on freeish website there would be quite a lot of disadvantages. That is, there is something that need **ck yorself with a dickthere, all the business. Well, as if this is a huge minus, because on freeish sites model are really f***ed up. you need to plow, you need to really plow. You won't be sitting there in nice underwear and flirt and get money from it, from The fact that dudes are just into you they fall in love and want to please you. It so happens that in aggregate with working with a psychologist a bunch of complexes came off. First of all, because you constantly You see yourself on camera, but usually you do see yourself on camera in a favorable light, in a favorable perspective for yourself. Second, for me, very positive the moment that this is work from home. You at any time, when you feel comfortable, you go to the stream when it's uncomfortable-don't come out. It's clear that else there self-discipline is being leveled up with all this. You understand that your income depends only from you, you need to work with it one way or another. interact. In short, for me it was generally here so, independent, something about independence, about discipline. I think the two of us from our studio mostly more emphasis on communication, like me, From my observations, I can't say for all of us, but for the two of us, in my opinion, the main focus. I have people like that, who just log in to private and we'll talk to them we talk for three, four hours, we just talk. Well, yes, we are doing something pleasant, I can turn on my own porn, somehow enjoy it. But the main focus is still on communication and the fact that the dude fell in love in you, the person feels good with you. I think this is normal, because it doesn't make anyone feel bad. I have one of the most important constants, He's got a whole s*** in his life, but I am for him, a ray of sunshine. Well, really a ray of sunshine, he came to me almost every day, he sits with me and he sometimes even almost crying just how good he feels with me, that's it. But for you, for you, it's always everything it will be virtual, that is, you understand that you never cross the line? Exactly, yes. Well, I don't have a "no, that's it" in my head. no, I just understand that these are not the people I'll like in my life, Not the kind of people I want to be with in my life to meet. He's good, but no. It's still a bit sick person. Do you think that you have people who they watch most often, are they sick people? Well, not that sick, well, I don't know, I wouldn't have liked this person for communication in life for sure. He's very tearful, he's very insecure. Oh, you're talking specifically about your regular customer here. Yes. Fine, I thought, about everyone. Well, the rest also have a lot of disadvantages, that is, I do not know, well, maybe there are some adequate people, but mostly still, well, it's strange that a person comes in and has no people in his life. Maybe, of course, he is lonely and because of this he comes in, but it's still weird. Why can't he go to to communicatewith someone in life? Something must be wrong. On the other hand, if those people who watch webcams? Mostly, they are men. What problem unites both men and women, who watch a lot of porn, and webcam, and turn to prostitutes? They have a common problem is that in a situation of power, they don't need to work for well, call interest from someone on the other side, and become attractive, and do something to have sex with a living person, with a real one. Neither porn nor webcam – they are not mean rejections usually. Rejection is something that is absolutely necessary to get used to being a normal person in a normal society. Because if you take rejection easy if you take "no" easy well, let's just say you're not in the risk group of sexual or gender-based violence or something else. My question is - how different are they online and offline consultations? Because, for example, before the pandemic, I went to see a therapist offline only, and I spent a lot of money on the road there, and now I have a psychoanalyst online, and this is absolutely fine, this suits the psychoanalyst, me. Do you study from home? Yes, I study from home, it is important for me that I was by myself so that there was no one else close enough for me to be there, you know. In the cabin. Yes, in the cabin. Do you see the difference, because I don't care my psychoanalyst, for example, said that We still have to meet up somehow offline, at least once in all these sessions. In general, it is considered that offline slightly creates this added value here to the process. So while you're going there, you specifically set aside time for this, you you plan your life for this more, you allocate such a social resource you spend money on it. That is, it can be offline slightly more efficient, slightly more emotionally loaded, but online is easier, more accessible and generally not much inferior in terms of efficiency. How to understand this for people who are just coming to psychotherapy, that this psychologist is his? Again, this is a two-way process, because, on the one hand, there should be comfortable, there should be trust, feeling, that the person is interested in you, in your work, that he is attentive, and in general you have some kind of connection, simple, human. On the other hand, especially, when this is already an ongoing process, met 5 times, met 10 times, and you start to have some negative feelings, - perhaps this is part of your work, because, let's say, such people meet you not only in office, but also you have something triggered on them, some you feel the clues that this for some reason, person negatively touches you. But if you can discuss it with him, you can say to him: listen, I've had something to do with you here's something awkward, uncomfortable, I feel a certain coldness, and you can talk about it, it might be generally be a good engine of change for you. And tell me, please, after creating channel "Petya likes to drink" write to me, they write letters. Here, they write me a big number of emails, and very often heavy ones for me, for reading, sometimes tragic, especially after the issues of "Petya pro", this is social issues, where we have all the time psychologists participate, and I am very pleased, what are you writing to me, but I can't solve their problems. I'm being asked for some advice that I can't give to you because I'm not a professional, I'm not a psychologist, yes, I'm empathetic a human, but that's different. And the other day a young man wrote to me about the fact that he can't decide on his own sexual orientation, because he likes guys, but he can only represent sex with girls. And now he says I don't understand what I should do, and so on. I can't give that advice. Is it important that guys or girls, which come in "Yasno" if they have any questions related to LGBT people... Well, in general, we have such a die on the "Yasno" "LGBT-friendly". Despite the fact that in general professional psychologists, psychotherapist, he's, well, generally friendly, and that's not necessary underline separately for LGBT people, because a professional, of course, different psychological processes and conditions evaluates them as normal. Can, by browsing through different therapists, you can see, what someone specifically pointed out, that he works, has experience in this work, and professionally tolerant of this please note that this will not create any additional problems. In general, I have appeal to my viewers. Guys, if you have any stories, which you want to share, please write, of course. To direct or in the comments section under the video. But if you need professional help, I just can't help you, because this should be done by psychologists, psychotherapists you can find, for example, on the "Yasno" service. Moreover, here is a promo code for you-Petyapro on a 20% discount on the first session, and a link where you can find this service, in the description. Lesh, thank you so much for coming here, we are currently in a studio in Moscow, and I just got back from Kazan, I was in your studio, in the literal sense of the word. Of course, I had an amazing feeling. I've never experienced anything like this before. Besides, I checked it all out for myself. It was my initiative. Yes, because I don't really thought it would be so difficult. I thought, What's the big deal? I also conduct live broadcasts on my Instagram, Subscribe to us who wants, I thought, that it's easy, but this is quite different. It's much more energy, attention, and it's really big job, like who neither related to the webcam, this is hard, it's really hard. Please tell me where you came from you have an idea to open a webcam studio, like how long have you been working? I think it was 2008 or 2009, If I'm not mistaken, well, there's a plus or minus. I have one of my friends worked in a webcam studio. They had a need there to deal with the computers, they changed the staff computers, configuration, Installation and so on and so forth, and I just like that, it was on my soul. Because it's pretty so cool there seems to be some kind of young team there, plus I have a gray everyday life there, I get into the such an environment, and plus I'm still working with what I really liked at that moment, That is, these are computers, settings, I was system administrator. I first came to Kazan, I was looking for myself Some kind of work, that is, just what I had to finish my studies, and I was looking for a job as a system administrator in a webcam studio, And I found, that they simply don't exist in Kazan. So you're working for about 10 years now? No, not 10. Our studio has been around for 7 years. How did you get into this profession in the first place and how long have you had your studio open? Worked as a model for two years, So I got the idea to open my own studio. I moved back from St. Petersburg to Izhevsk, and now I have already started this business. Here in August of this year we celebrated 10 years. That is, webcam modeling in Russia – is this a very long, long-standing story? Well, that's enough. Just in recent years, here is the whole this hype in the media, among journalists, is here just recently it came to the surface. But it's very old business in Russia. I'm very interested in how and where you found the first webcam models, and who was there? Girls and boys or just girls? No, it was just girls, it was just an incredible experience. We took everything that was crooked. Very interesting wording. We took here, I say, we took on everything. We wrote, there was no such strict restrictions on spam VKontakte at that time and so on and the like, we wrote spam mailings Vkontakte. Do it yourself personally. Well, we didn't have the funds doing it all. This is probably one of the main reasons, why we still seem to be working, 'Cause I say, we're right here with a minus, we raised it all ourselves. At first, we sent SMS messages, accordingly, then watched some ads, watched where someone reacts to responses to vacancies of some massage parlors. It was hard to inform, because now the word "webcam" is a blinkered word, it basically everywhere from every crevice blows, and accordingly, all this. And at that time you need to explain. That is, first of all, we are in a country like this we live where the mentality does not allow us to just so accept the fact that you can for communication, roughly speaking, being paid. Well it's not just that communication, it is anyway. Erotic, but no, the webcam has a lot directions, that is, I say, someone can offer just live communication like coach, someone can offer erotic content content, but there is a webcam that goes away to the porn industry, respectively. But it's still on the verge of these legal issues I don't want to touch there, so In general, we limit what we will demonstrate in frames, and we have it strictly following the protocol. How do you regulate your relationships with models? Do you have any verbal agreements, do you conclude contracts or something? Well, basically it's verbal agreements. We are currently developing a contract that we'll implement soon, but mostly so far, roughly speaking, the agreement with the site, agreement with the studio's rules, i.e. signing questionnaires – basically, that's it. What are the main risks you face when you take girls as models? Because of the our Russian legislation we work within a very strict framework. So we can't go through certain facets to avoid hitting under the article, for example, 242. This is illegal manufacturing and distribution of pornography on the Internet. We work within this framework, and we have to keep an eye on it. But we can't keep track of everything. Let's say a model came in and made pornography on a phone and sent it to someone. These are the risks we should protect ourselves from with this agreement, because we forbid to do this. What other risks do you have as a studio manager you encounter? In addition to the fact that they can come. You say they'll take out the studio, who? Government agencies? Yes. Are there any other risks? I don't know,maybe is there a mafia of its own in this business? Maybe you had something for the studio the husband came in jealous or something else, what problems do you have most often encountered? Well, if I had for every such problem paid a ruble, I would have 20 rubles. Come on, at least tell me a couple of the most interesting rubles. Well, as if, yes, the most important classic – this is a jealous guy, a jealous husband, calls: I'll lock you all up right now, I'll blow it up, well, it happens. When you open in the regions, it was even 10 years ago and still no one knew what is a webcam business, someone heard it somewhere: yeah, undressing means it's illegal. So, you can come and visit, and they won't go to the police. There have also been many such cases, but they ended with a simple refusal and then did not continue. Well, I was walking around, and I looked around a couple of weeks, and then you live quietly until the next case. How many studios do you have and in which cities, how many models are there? In Izhevsk, Perm, Nizhny Novgorod, models are probably somewhere under 70. 70 people? So much. About two years ago it was under 200. Why did it get smaller? Well, we've put in place some pretty strict rules, we stopped working for the stream and started work for quality. That is, the minimum output of hours, we refused to work with students. We generally refused in principle from part-time work. That is, if you want to earn money, welcome if you want something out there receiving is not for us. You're the director now, is it called correctly? Studio director? Yes, you can say that. And what functionality do you have? Well, that's pretty much. I mean, well, it's often difficult for people come up with some new tasks for yourself. Accordingly, here is my main task – first of all, it is, of course, expanding the boundaries of our studio, the company we work with. Well, in the second place, the role is still a coach, who works with his team and which, respectively, pumps them based on requests. Because we work in very tight bundles, I say, straight with all the nodes, who work there. That is, starting from the fact that we perfectly understand that working with people is emotional work, where you can burn out very much, where you can weary. There you need to be very scrupulous attention, respectively, up to the fact that we're leaving for private sessions with some people, respectively, are closed in the office, we have a personal session as a reception, roughly speaking, passes. We talk there, then go out – all charged, new tools, and so on and so on. And this is basically happening on almost every node. This is such an interesting, cutting-edge, expanding position for the most part, then there are places where you need with one hand hold the lever inside, and with the other hand there's something to reach up to. How many years you already in the webcam industry? In the webcam industry I've been here for over 15 years. Wow. And why is that, how did it all start? My sister opened a studio. She suggested that we open a studio together, But since I was 19 years old, she was older than me, sister, I didn't take this business seriously. For me, at that age, it was important to somehow have a good time, hang out somewhere. And then, when the financial situation developed in such a way that I needed Money, I went to my sister and I say: I want to try it. Do I understand correctly that native sister involved you in this business? I can't say that she got me involved in This business, I was already 18 years old, I could make decisions, and I made my own decision. Than in general here for this period, for 15 years did you study, how did you pass the stages? Because I know that you now own a studio in the Czech Republic. Yes, I have my own studio in Prague, I also own an online educational program platforms for webcam models. We create online products, courses, trainings, webinars for webcam models and studios. To develop professionally in this industry. I trained models from the very beginning. What I learned from my own experience earn money online, and this way I also trained other models. After a while, I had to leave Ukraine due to illegal migration situation in this country related to webcam business, I went to the Czech Republic, it was necessary to choose the country where this business is legal, where I can develop the way I want. That's why I went to the Czech Republic. Unfortunately, all our studios were closed at that time. Closed, and I couldn't continue the business in that country. You have experience in Ukraine, you have experience in the Czech Republic. I really want to know the difference between this in the CIS countries, respectively, I believe that this experience may be close to Russian, Ukrainian, and Czech Republic. The biggest difference is that here business is legal and to be engaged in webcam business, or you're a model, or you're studio owner, or you go open your own firm, company, register it's activity, keep records, pay taxes, etc. you work yourself quietly, which gives you a great opportunity to grow your business. There is healthy competition, competition based on who provides the best services, who provides any innovations, any ideas, respectively, the business is growing and developing. Everyone who works in Russia and Ukraine, they work in such a certain fear, and they are afraid to develop, they are afraid to show their face. This situation predisposes to the fact that there are unscrupulous studios. Please tell us some of the most unpleasant incidents that happen to you they've already happened as a manager of webcam studios, just wondering what is the main thing that you will remember. Criminal case of 2018. Are you being turned on? To my studio, yes. And the reason? 242nd, illegal manufacturing and distribution of pornography on the Internet. And how did you get away from that? The case was closed for absence of crime composition. Here I have almost the criminal sitting. Yes, for us there worked a team of 8 people. Out of 8 lawyers? 8 lawyers, yes. And why if you have so many risks, plus you went through such a story with a criminal case of the 18th, thank God, which got away, you're still in Russia, but you haven't moved, for example, to the Czech Republic and did not open it some branch or something? To a country where it is more legal, so that you don't feel unsafe? The framework in which we work, I believe that we are working within the law. Of course, there is no certainty, but nevertheless but these are not just my conclusions, these conclusions of analytics and lawyers. In other words, we have organized our work as follows: to try to be safe. Why do you think they came to you with a criminal case, and why in general, this is the first time this has ever happened in the history of the industry, what did they even try to get on someone an article? That is, they were already any attempts, I don't know? You've already dealt with this issue, in any case, they were looking for some other cases. Yes, of course, as soon as I started working out, we immediately, that was the first question I puzzled. Yes, in principle, there were cases similar by studios, but the caveat is that only those who pleaded guilty were convicted, that is, which went in a special order. They pleaded guilty, that is why they were imprisoned? No one was jailed, all of them have a probation maximum. And how did you get what, well, can you tell us any details? They came and tore up the whole studio, the doors were broken. Models were detained, admins were detained. There is nothing interesting like chases and shootouts, everything much more legally boring. Why did they come to me? It just happened that way. Everything is much simpler, these are the usual sticks in our stick system. Indicators need to be done. Make metrics. Is Webcam legal in Russia? Webcams under Russian law is in the gray area because it is not directly regulated by law. On the one hand, it is not prohibited, on the other hand, it is not allowed. And, as a matter of fact, this industry thanks to this, it also develops, since, on the one hand, there is a request, apparently, these service from society, on the other hand law enforcement agencies do not know what to do in this situation, since there is no direct prohibition there is no legislation. What about legal point of view then webcam studios regulated now? How do they work? How do they get around it all? A webcam studio can be created as limited liability company, as a commercial organization, or they can be registered as individual entrepreneur on the organizer of these processes, who, as a matter of fact, he can create a studio for himself. You can think of it as a kind of a business from which to pay taxes, organize processes, and so on in fact, to produce content. Many webcam studios this is how they are arranged. Another thing is that those people who get in this area as models, they are essentially not protected, because models are promised some work conditions, don't sign with them neither an employment contract nor a service agreement and in fact, when models perform their activities, attract funds from customers, then profit often gets the webcam studio itself, in fact without paying a lot of money to the models, and models can't rely on a contract, which they could sign with a webcam studio in order to demand that your rights be respected. Let's talk about law component of the webcam studio. First, do you enter into contracts with your models, and secondly, what legal form you have in general, and third, how do you issue a salary, i.e. do you circumvent taxation, how do you pay your taxes? Damn, I really don't want to, in fact, it's hard to talk about it. I can tell it like something like this, but here's straight on the air in general that's just I don't want to say it. Why? Because it's the whole gray area? Well, of course, it's everything, just like in any other business, and here we are not just talking about money, but about that, how they should move. I say, there are a lot of points, that is how to move all this money correctly and how properly dispose of, respectively, with these legal issues. We basically have, I say, a ready-made legal scheme in order to in principle, to work, we are in the legal norm, we have answers to absolutely all your questions about what we do, how we work, how we pay out and so on and so forth And here's exactly what's happening at the level of money, this is the eternal pain of a webcam, I think it's because once every two years something is constantly changing. And this is a direct, direct, I say, question, which you need to constantly dive into, in which constantly, well, for us it's just somehow a problem with an undeveloped relationship. Webcam in the gray zone. Did you ever have a fear that you were going to this gray area that is not regulated? There is, there is fear. Given that the laws are changing, in particular, about pornography. For example, there were law changes at the beginning of the year and even some studios have started cover up in this regard, but there should be just a broadcast – there's no way they attract you, they can't. The only thing that yes, with the tax service questions may arise, but to do this, you just need to apply for self-employment and, welcome, Pay the tax, pay the tax for what comes. In other words, these are regular streams, just with strawberries, let's call it that. Look, we've had a few psychologists are already here, we talked. And most of them say that this is very destructive for web models, then, what they do, it destroys them psychologically and so on. They may not admit it, ourselves, even in the beginning, yes. But in general it affects psychologically negative. Why do you think that is going on? I understand perfectly, what it's about. First, we work in a very large emotional pressure in terms of moralism. Because webcams are not separated from the porn industry, people, respectively, they say that escorts, massage parlors, prostitution, camgirls-that's all approximately in the same list. Naturally, the person is under constant emotional pressure. That is, on the part of society. He doesn't want to tell you where he works, he's not ready to take the job, he wants to just hide it all, hide it all and, accordingly, keeps it all to itself and constantly with a sense of guilt goes to such job, despises himself for what he's doing. And naturally, it will be due to the fact that they will be in progress somehow get these injuries and so on, and so on. Again, psychologists say that even if they make a decision, one way or another They're raping themselves because they know What, for example, here I am a little more open and get paid, there are even more here – and so on. So they talk themselves into it and then this story begins. Is that what you think? The most interesting question is that they can criticize you, but they can't tell what can be done is all correct and with the right techniques. I do not claim in any way that I'm doing everything-everything absolutely right, I'm like The studio, I mean, that is what I do everything is correct and so on and so forth. But at least I'm paying attention and the idea is that any action – it can be done incorrectly, you can do it right. That is, and they say that either way this will happen, well, anyway this will happen. There is simply no single methodology, we have business is pretty much in such a gray area where you can't just attract big specialists. Do you have any psychological support or help, or maybe a psychologist on staff, who helps girls in case of any situations? Do you think so anyway do you think they need it? Well, yes, we have in every city a psychologist. Now in Nizhny no, we can't find a suitable one. That is, there must be some special features? So let's say, I am far from this topic. I'm in this plan a little conservative. In general, in principle, I believe that it is not needed there. But since my command says, if you need it, you need it. They work locally, They know better than I do. And accordingly, they're already recruiting a psychologist. I do not know by what criteria. Why do you think what is not needed? Why the command does think you need it? I generally think, that this profession is superfluous. It is to the profession you have such questions. Well, to a psychologist, yes. Well actually I think, that it is individual. For someone the work of a waiter can or, I dunno, working in a strip bar. I wouldn't put that emphasis, that exactly does webcam have a special effect on. It also depends on the person. If you were rude on the air, they can't do this on the street? Yeah, but that's not the point, at the strip bar much tougher, I think, influence, In my opinion, I may not understand, don't throw stones at me. The same burnout, some such Problems – well, I'd rather solve it with a vacation or any other surprises for model. Do girls need psychological help in general, and do you provide it, in addition to the fact that did you to the guys? Yes, of course, that is, necessarily yes. I can only say this from my own perspective studios and I can say that the mine position many studios can accept it as abnormal. One of the first questions We are working on, well, I am a competence "model", i.e. "I am a model". And when you develop this competence, it is impossible to work it out with a person, who is emotionally burned out or feels very aggrieved, crushed, and so on and so on. Accordingly, if the person does not accept in principle, its role, its competence, then we'll probably just say goodbye to this person. Well, there is no such thing that we have a straight big request to say goodbye to everyone, but of course, we don't have a big request to work with everyone. We do not have injuries that are received, I mean, we're pretty neat we work, we, respectively, work with the fact that, as it were, there is an image of acceptance, and there is that you are, respectively, there you'll see, and so on and so forth. And we are preparing for all this, of course, if we see that, respectively, the person is not suitable, not ready, then we are most likely we will not simply work with this person. Are there any possible psychological injuries for models, have you ever encountered this, like do you help or advise models, which somehow behave, maybe somewhere infringe or then eventually suffer from the fact that they chose this profession at all? I'll tell you right away that I'll work in a webcam it's hard mentally, because there are a lot of stigmas, a lot of prejudice, a lot of judgment. Handle it alone difficult or even impossible. But there is a good organization that helps all sex workers from all over the world this organization It's called Pineapple Support. They have 24/7 support and you can seek therapy or visit free webinars, therapy too practically free, you need to make a deposit there only the minimum contribution, make as much as you can contribute. It can be as low as $ 1, it can be 50 dollars depending on your situation. They help there, it is therapeutic assistance. We also raise the question of whether it is worth it to legalize all this in Russia, and now it is already using the example of the Czech Republic, you can highlight something negative in this, in practice, Is there something like that in your experience? Well here more is more related to the level of life, and we are competing with the average salaries in the country, which are the average salaries of webcam models, and to attract models, they should really like this work, like taking pictures show yourself, shoot, and communicate on camera. This is not a job for everyone, respectively, it is more difficult to find models for the studio. in the Czech Republic, because there is a high standard of living and labor market is high. As far as I know, the Czech Republic even has some kind of premium for webcam models, or am I wrong? Yes, it was this Saturday. It is held annually in the Czech Republic, in Prague, around September. And this year, too, was held, last year unfortunately, was not due to covid. And at this ceremony, I also received multiple nominations and awards, and in the 21st year I had two nominations. Can a webcam model really have fun from her job in principle? Can this happen and have little effect on it psychological or sexual state? It looks like it can, although I don't research, about, say, positive experiences, I didn't run into any of them. But if we talk about some experience mental disorders, yes, absolutely – large enough percentage. According to some publications, there are more than half of women don't develop mental disorders that are typically mentioned, when we talk about the problem of prostitution. Because they have no personal contact with men, they have less, respectively, risk of violence, and there are probably women who had only a positive experience and they was lucky. That is, no one was following them, no one leaked personal information to the network, and in general, they only encountered good people. Surely there are such people, because the world is diverse. Another thing is that we can't get into the head to each or every one and we don't know what are the long-term effects, in particular, specialists who work with sexuality, they express such an opinion that it is impossible You can't do that much sex, masturbating, or whatever. When you don't want to, it can't not be reflected in the long-term plan, and you kidding yourself that you're okay and you like it – you're just lying to yourself. There is such an opinion. I hold the position that somehow people, it's probably best to know how they live and what's going on inside them, and if there is people who claim that everything is ok for them and they had a good experience, and they were blown away, and they were lucky, probably there is such a thing too. Do you feel, that your job is sex exploitation? Or is it still there? No, I'm not. Not at all. Perhaps I would have thought so at some point. degrees, if I worked in a different studios that work there are: studios that work on five sites, then there is a model, they stream on five sites at once. We had a girl like that in the studio, and so did we took it, she is also doing well and likes everything, but she works on several sites at once. So that's how she started and she's so comfortable. Yeah, but it's already hard, it's already, well, If I'd worked like this, I'd have been a little worried because it was still dangerous, these sites are free, Chaturbate, here this is other stuff, this is already, it seems to me fit the article somehow. In this regard, we are very lucky, I think, Because I didn't know where I was going anyway. where I'll stream, I just showed up and that's it. But I was lucky that they put me on the one site is the only one, I focus only on it, everything happens absolutely comfortable for me and everything is chic. That is, I believe, that I was very lucky. Because some models aren't so lucky. Someone runs into bad studios, where they can be fu**ed for money. Many unpleasant situations can occur, we are doing very well in this regard. OK, answer me the last one question, at the same time it is desirable. Do you feel like safe now? Yes. Yes. At 100%. What else in Russia would you like to change? More information so that it will be about this. Well, it's in the public domain, just to make it easy to find. And don't you want some kind of protection? Tax base so that you can? In order for it, to be white zone would be fine. You broadcast on Twitch, you broadcast on YouTube. You're broadcasting, so it's something similar. Yes, it would be great if there was no public condemnation, to provide protection for webcam models, because there really is a danger, you never know what guys are, you never know whoever's out there might start following you. But this generally applies to the mediazone, yes, and no one canceled stalking, nowhere at all, in anything, with anyone. But in particular here, yes, I wanted it would just be emotional safity, physical security. What I would like to change in Russia in order to The situation has improved in terms of, I don't know, the psyche of a webcam model? I mean, what do you need to do to make less problems and traumatic experiences for those who are webcams or in general, in this industry? You know, I am a supporter of the Swedish model in general. Those who are sexually exploited in one way or another to be supported by the state, there were some social programs for exit, help, I don't know, find a job, some social issues benefits and so on. And those who apply, users, clients, so that this is frowned upon by society, there were some fines, and this is the first, and the second, in general, the more rich people live than they are doing well in life, the less vulnerable they are, the less probability that they will generally find themselves in such a situation. Where can the victims of violence contact, people who want to go to a webcam can't decide, they still think? Here, and in the case, if you need psychological support. If you need psychological support, you can contact us again to a Safe house, that's what we specialize in. Here, you can contact any if you don't have money for example, a social center, in each city has a free service for psychological help, you can contact us at helpline for private psychologists, in general, for any psychological support available qualified assistance. If they're already being used, I don't know. if you are being harassed, for example, in social networks, then here it is important not to enter into any correspondence, do not get in touch, for example, contact the resource administrators to block it these users, report them. And the police? If these are threats, or threats of some kind physical violence, harassment, then you can contact the police, they are required to consider such cases. What do you see as the future in webcam industry in Russia? I think it's still sooner or later it will be some kind of legalization. Or they just close their eyes-and how they work, so they already work. Just periodically they'll get someone. Well, well, they'll ban it, but the studios aren't going anywhere. Home models will work. That is, if you try to eradicate this business, it will not happen. They'll just go deeper underground and be, I don't know whether to work in basements or use encryption. What do you think, why is the webcam business ineradicable? Why is it going to continue anyway and happen regardless of? Sex was always on sale and it will be sold. Even more so, there are many beautiful girls in Russia. So you still think, that is sex work? Well, of course, for the most part, yes. During the filming, I revised my ratio to the webcam exactly 4 times. And with each speaker, with each new story I was getting more and more confused. Some people say that they are super-class, others – that this is the worst thing that happened to them in their lives. I can say one thing, it seems to me that it all depends on the specific case. You can't standardize it all somehow, or something. I would really like there was less stories about the traumatic experience. And I'd also like us to stop be ashamed to talk about people in the adult industry and tried to understand, is it possible to make their lives safer. I do not know what is the conclusion make for you, so figure it out for yourself. But listen carefully to yourself, do only what you like and, please provide for yourself maximum security. Petya Ploskov was with you, see you.
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